Black women have no option?

Posted by James, 23 Mar 09

Warning: This post may be offensive to some readers. This is not the objective. The post is in no way meant to defame or inflame any parties, groups or persons. It is simply meant to find out what people think about black white dating.

In a bid to explain why Black women get upset about Black men dating White women, Chris Rock in his latest stand up comedy says all Black men have done is exercised their option. He goes on to say Black women are angry because they are not attracted to white men so they can’t exercise their option. All they can do is sleep with “pretty white boys" but generally, black women are not attracted to white men.

In my opinion, the above statements suggest Black women only date interracially out of desperation. In fact, most Black men believe so. And the finger pointing between Black men and Black women never ends. I don't think this is the case though and frankly, I have never understood why Black men and Black women have to come up with such crude and prejudiced remarks while trying to figure out the reasoning behind their counterparts' dating options. YES! Options.

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  1.   serenity33 says:
    Posted: 06 Aug 10

    Wow. There is a lot of various views on here. I personally view everyone as individuals and can't comment on black stereotypes male or female especially since I am white and haven't read any studies out there on it. I think everyone is cool until shown otherwise. I am just curious, has there been any studies on what was stated in this myriad of viewpoints? I don't know personally. So I am not challenging anyone's view whatsoever on this blog. I just wanted to throw a general statement out there. Studies do show that internet communication as well as higher movement rates of all races around the country are moving around the country more. And in person, people tend to date who they are surrounded by and in close proximity the most so maybe the greater desegregation of races as they move around and intermingle causes more interracial dating in general as well as the internet bringing people exposed to people they wouldn't normally be exposed to because of lack of proximity. Just throwing out a possibility.:-) Joseph Moyer

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  2. Posted: 06 Aug 10

    So much truth in your words snickers38.

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  3.   snickers38 says:
    Posted: 05 Aug 10

    Well im going to answer the poster because some of the responses ive read are disturbing at best. I dont think that black women date other races out of desperation because black women have been dating other races as long as black men. Definitely at a lower percentage but just as long. I have always seen black women with other races. So its nothing new. Are there some ignorant reasons out there why they do it? yes but no different than why black men do it. Honestly there is a real problem within the black race period and dating outside the race is not the most important reason but its part of the problem with the black race.

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  4. Posted: 31 Jul 10

    HIya Petite.... I totally understand why you have left the site (especially after the fraud you experienced).... ...I guess I have just "found home" here in a way and the chatroom that is attached to the site is a hoot....LOL. I wish you all the best on the new site Peace and Blessings to you, sis tatted2death

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  5. Posted: 30 Jul 10

    @ Petite: LOL yep I figured that APB was coming. Figured I bettuh show my face before them laws come showing up at my door.. hehehe! Actually for the most part I just lurk pretty often. I still put in my 2 cents worth every once in a while. I'm doing well. Not every day is all sunshine and roses, but I am Blessed and Highly Favored. Thanks for askin.

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  6.   PetiteChick says:
    Posted: 29 Jul 10

    Comment by tatted2death on 28 July 2010: LOLas a side bar. Man, I wish you could start your own threads here.I would start my own pic gripe section Addressing issues such as Why did the pics get SMALLER?? And personally, sometimes I just feel like if you dont have a pic YOU NEED TO BE IN YOUR OWN SPECIAL blog.LOL Peite: YES!!!! Especially the no photo. I'll chat up a no photo person here (member) on the blogs but I certainly wouldn't take it any further. You can see me, and it would be a MUST that I see you. On point, yet again!

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  7.   PetiteChick says:
    Posted: 29 Jul 10

    Hey Ms. Tatted! I had to scroll up real quick and you're right! Those posts are gone. That's a good thing. This sort of thing "open blog" in my opinion makes the quality of the dating experience here go down. Anyone can post here. People with the wrong intentions read this stuff and other blogs and then join up with preconceived notions or with thoughts that Black women are desperate. We ARE NO SUCH THING. I've left as an account holder and on to another site - w/o all of this as a distraction. Quality is lacking here in my humble opinion. But that don't mean I won't run into the same or similar elsewhere. I just think this blog causes trouble for serious daters. Good to see you sistahhh! I don't post as often, but I'm around sometimes. Best to my sistahhh friend! *smooches*

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  8.   PetiteChick says:
    Posted: 29 Jul 10

    MsBigEyes: Girl now you know you rocking that pix. It's really nice. And you took it with your cell? I can't do that. I've tried. My mess comes out looking like umm, err, what was SHE trying to do. LOL. Thank you for the compliment sis. Change is good! I'm honored to know a sistahhh appreciates my thoughts. Truly! Ummm, I suspect you won't be bored long looking like that though!!!! *smooches* Love ya much.

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  9.   PetiteChick says:
    Posted: 29 Jul 10

    MzBrown: Hey sistahhhhh! I almost put an APB out on you. LOL. I'm good, hope you're well and all in your life is too. *smooches*

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  10. Posted: 29 Jul 10

    Glad they FINALLY pulled that other MADNESS out of here.....LMAO....some will NEVER learn... Peace People

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  11.   bigeyes31 says:
    Posted: 29 Jul 10

    Hey Petite, you are the sweetest! Thanks so much for the compliments. I thought I'd follow your lead and do something in color,lol. It's funny how I took this picture last Tuesday with my cell phone camera sitting in the car on lunch break ,hence all the sun light shining in,LOL,bored as hell,LOL and it turned out nicely,at least according to you,LOL. Thanks a bunch! I think I'm going to try your hair-style this time but I thinks it's your personality and style that makes it rock,LOL. Love ya lady Peace

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  12. Posted: 28 Jul 10

    Hey Petite Gurlll. How you doing?

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  13.   PetiteChick says:
    Posted: 27 Jul 10

    MzBrown: Tatted knew right away (I was skeptical). But I'm so glad he's been outed! I wonder how others who co-signed with him feels now? I'm disappointed that I could not "see." And you are right, he don't sound so bright!

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  14.   PetiteChick says:
    Posted: 26 Jul 10

    @Bigeyes: OMG you're in "color." Wonderful photo of you! YOU GO GIRL!

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  15. Posted: 25 Jul 10

    big eyes , i know the feeling i have written more here in the last 2 weeks than the last year. laurelton/eric/walter pisses me off as well. i thank you for straightening that out and as i said i was sure you were expecting it

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  16.   bigeyes31 says:
    Posted: 25 Jul 10

    Hey Ms. Godiva! Thank you so much for the pic comment. Good to hear from ya. Hey Sam,LOL. Thanks for getting the humor in what I said and I am glad you didn't take offense to it. I was chuckling to myself as I was typing. It was only designed to offend the one to whom it was directed. I was targeting the hidden racism that I suspect is there in his heart. Hi looking for Life Thank you. I'm glad you like the pictures. I know that not all whites are the same but this guy seemed to be into generalizations,so I threw one his way. Obviously a racists if he can be apart of the very behaviour that is causing HIV to be as epidemic as it is and STILL blame another race and gender of people as the problem...whoa! Also,he just really pissed me off. Peace

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  17. Posted: 25 Jul 10

    hey big eyes firstly i liked the new pics as well. now i know you are expecting this but the whole "white priviledge" thing when in the past stating the evils of stereotyping. not all white countries fall into the same evils nor all white people. unlike walter i have been with 4 women in the last 20 years and i still get tested regularly "just in case" as should EVERYONE regardless of who or how many people you are sleeping with. 14 in 2 years unprotected??? that is just ridiculous shows no self-respect or respect to the women he is involved with and it would be their fault if he got a disease??? WOW he has also just proven some people have no class, there is more to growing up than growing old (told to me by my grandfather, a real man) end of discussion.

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  18.   sam says:
    Posted: 24 Jul 10

    "You all have always been good at throwing the rock and hiding your hand,then you use white privilege to cover up the shit stains,like a child who hasnt learned to wipe himself well yet, but without the innocence." Even if I am a white man, I found this hilarious! Way to go, Bigeyes31, well said!

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  19.   godiva61 says:
    Posted: 24 Jul 10

    @bigeyes31, Hey there! Love the picture!! love godiva

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  20.   godiva61 says:
    Posted: 24 Jul 10

    Punching holes, 7/18/2010 Walter states: I came to this site about a week ago, so this means on or about 7/11/10. In his post on 7/23/10 Walter states: I have only been on this site for about three weeks now, so from the 11th until the 23rd, that's about 12 days, not three weeks. 7/18/2010 Walter states: that he has been dating black females for a little more than two years now. He then went on to say that he recently met a nice black female that he wanted to get to know better, that is, until his family and friends intervened on his behalf to convince him otherwise, blah, blah! Here's the kicker for me with Walter or whoever he's calling himself today, he also stated on this date 7/18/2010 that : Some of my friends and other guys that I have known over the years have in the past dated black ladies, but no longer because of AIDS. They are fearful over the prospect of being infected with AIDS by black women and I can't blame them because I feel the same way. Now here we are, some 5 days later and Walter thanks Eric for openening his eyes to this problem, a problem that he himself had already admitted to having knowledge of, in his own words. Also I'm not getting why he as a white male, who is fearful of black women would INTENTIONALLY come to an INTERRACIAL dating site, doesn't make a lot of sense to me!! When a person is fearful of something or someone, wouldn't it be wise to stay away as far as possible??? I'm petrified of lightning so I wouldn't intentionally go out in a storm, while it's lightning! AIDS/HIV has been on the radar since 1981, almost 30 years. One of the pieces of information that has been in the forefront on how NOT to contract this disease, is to ALWAYS WEAR CONDOMS! Yet Walter just admitted to NOT wearing condoms!!! In his own words, "the women never mentioned condoms, we just did our thing". What a dumbass!!! My favorite part from Walter is when he said " if those black women that keep coming here as we all see here, that are in denial and aren't intelligent enough to wake up and smell the coffee, then I think their fate is already sealed". This is from a man that admitts to having unprotected sex, with fourteen women! What a dumbass!!!! I'm wondering if in the future if Walter is going to be man enough, honest enough, to share with his future partner as to how many women he had unprotected sex with??? I'm wondering also if Walter is aware of the fact, that he himself has placed himself in the high risk category by having unprotected sex, with multiple partners, again, what a dumbass!!!! I do hope Walter is also aware that even though his test came back negative, that does NOT mean that he is in the clear!!! Check out the incubation period, dear Walter, you can test negative today, and six months from now, it may be a whole different story. Yes Walter every man/woman shall reap what they have sewn, this does NOT apply to black women only. Please reference your motives, and your behavior here in the book of Proverbs, 6th chapter, verses 16-19. Your friend is NOT here, get over it! I'm on to you, you are NOT clever at all!!!!!! You gave yourself away on the very first day, and it's not just what you said, it's what you didn't say, the time of day, and no matter how many aliases you come up with, I can still hear that angry, bitter, and rejected man that you are!

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  21.   bigeyes31 says:
    Posted: 24 Jul 10

    Walter, YOU ARE UNQUESTIONABLY A TOTAL FOOL. You lead THAT kind of promiscuous life style,and blame BLACK WOMEN as the risk????YOU did this to yourself by having NO self control AND having unprotected sex!!!!Idiot, town idiot,if you increase your OWN chances of contracting HIV and ANY OTHER std what do you expect?????.As you stated it only takes once to end up with a life time of regret,and again,you slept with 14 different women,that you admit to,with no protection. Hell, you shouldn't be reading the CDC site,you should be REPORTING IN TO THE CENTER. African-Americans always get blamed publicly for what whites are equally,if not more to guilty of. You all have always been good at throwing the rock and hiding your hand,then you use white privilege to cover up the shit stains,like a child who hasn't learned to wipe himself well yet, but without the innocence. But praise be to God above,no matter what you have thrown at us,he has kept us,made us strong....survivors. Yes, some may have made mistakes and become statistics but they give back by reaching back to educate others,if only in their family they place themselves as an examples of living warnings. It would be pleasantly ironic if you contract HIV from a non-black woman....LOL. MAN! GET OUTTA HERE!....LMAO

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  22. Posted: 24 Jul 10

    well "walter" i guess you have the same reading comprehension problem as "eric" since neither one of you seems to understand the statistics that you have referred to.yes i will agree black women account for better than 80% of the cases in FEMALES but only21% of total cases. MEN account for more than 70% of total cases with black and white men each carrying about 30% of the load. and with only 13% of the total population it makes black men the riskiest group by far.as well over 70% of all new cases are directly attributed to gay MALE SEX because it is the transfer of fluids that spreads the disease and for your information women do not usually leave there "fluids" inside you butt you boyfreind does. but by your limited understanding and theories we should all be dating either asian, latino or white women and stop dating inside our own races. that way every race can share the burden equally ... right ??? spread it around we got lots...i like your way of thinking guy(s). do i need to point out thats sarcasm or did i lay it on thick enough for you to get it all by yourself. it really bothers me to watch people claiming to be educated massacre something like these simple numbers so badly.

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  23. Posted: 24 Jul 10

    too even

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  24. Posted: 24 Jul 10

    @ Walter or whoever you are: You stated: "I became very concerned about this topic because I have dated black women for almost two years, had relations with 14 different women, and havent one time used safe sex." --------------- Ya know what... you don't sound to bright.

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  25. Posted: 23 Jul 10

    Comment by Eric: "I have already presented the facts concerning black men supposedly being on the DL, and affecting all these black women." -------- "supposedly" huh? Allllll righty then.!! Say what you want, you know what's up.

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  26.   bigeyes31 says:
    Posted: 23 Jul 10

    At what time did I say or imply that I am a non-believer in statistics? Or imply that they are wrong? Of all people, I am a lover of truth and logic. I simply believe that just because statistics may be unfavorably high,doesn't mean I have to become one. I am an individual who takes responsibility for my own choices and with extreme prejudice,excercises my own judgement. Data is data.Numbers and ratios,which hold a certain element of truth because they are factual and factual because they can be proven. But, if I am ONE responsible individual who is not a part of the statics,multipy that exponentially.....,why there are millions of African-american women who are just like me! Is it fair to take those statistics and paint with such broad strokes? I am responsible for me today.

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  27.   bigeyes31 says:
    Posted: 23 Jul 10

    It is important to know statistics,but they are only bits and pieces of information,data that is up to the individual to interpret and apply accordingly.

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  28. Posted: 22 Jul 10

    @ sam, ms brown and tatted eric/laurelton/walter is a joke. 1) bm are a 1 in 16 chance of being carriers or infected with hiv/aids this joker knows it 2) bw are 1 in 30 chance and chucklehead knows that as well 3) gay sex male on male accounts for over 70% of all new cases and that guy stated it in his own post. 4)it is twice as likely to get this disease from a black male than a black woman. so i do not understand why this brain dead schmuck continues to try and deflect it. it is smart for all people of every race to get tested regularly and to practice safe sex. that is not new information and i am betting his has been tested, has it and is looking for someone to blame and he doesnt want to blame his boyfreind from jail.

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  29.   sam says:
    Posted: 22 Jul 10

    Poor Eric, you just keep ranting and ravin! You must be greatly disturbed here because in one sentence you talk about me being a black man when actually I am a white man, like everybody here know by now. Then you talk about the statistics and claim that I deny them. Where did I do that? I said that I get them. I just don't get you. And once again, like all the preachers in this world, you don't answer a single question: have you been tested? Because if you have not been tested, then you are part of the problem. I practice safe sex and I've said this to you in all my texts. I also get tested. Do you? Why don't you get from your high horse and put your money where your mouth is and get tested? Start practicing what you preach. First person to influence is you yourself. You can be either part of the solution or problem, and frankly, as long as you don't get tested for ALL STD's, you are part of the problem that so much troubles you. What bothers me in your rambling is that you make a lot of effort to prove that black women are the reason for all this trouble, for all the STD in black community. You know that this is a whole lotta bull. You ever heard Magic Johnson?? I'm not hurt by your childish anger and new born moral issues at all. I don't care about your political or moral creeds, ideas, ramblings or religions. What bothers me is this: you keep blaming the black women, your own that is. What is behind this vengefulness, this hate of yours? Why do you want to put the blame on black women alone? You know what is a theory about Adolf Hitler and his intense hatred of jews? Some researches have speculated that Adolf Hitler got STD from a jewish prostitute in Wienna before WW 1 and that is the reason behind his pathological hatred of jews. Just one theory. I don't know how close this gets to you, but one wonders... So my advice for you is this: 1. Get tested. 2. If infected or have any STD take care of yourself. 3. Stop acting like a witch hunter and start to find solutions to that horrible situation. This way you can be something positive instead of being a major a-hole.

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  30. Posted: 22 Jul 10

    Comment by tatted2death on 21 July 2010: wow..such similiar writing styles I notice here --- I have to admit I thought the exact same thang!!!

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  31. Posted: 22 Jul 10

    This Eric person keeps talking about "facts" and "denial" but he keep referring to the down low black male as lies. Now who is really in denial. What this character fails to mention is that if the reported cases are so low among black men, it is because many of the cases are, no doubt, unreported. It burns me up that this man brings his black rear end in here to completely throw black women under the bus, as if black men are so innocent and clean and have nothing at all to do with the high rate of infection in the black community. LET'S KEEP IT REAL!! Sure some black women may have been infected by drug use, some maybe from white men. Many no doubt from being prostitutes. However, I think it is pretty safe to say that for the majority of black women, their sexual partners have been black men. Now if you refuse to acknowledge that, then who really is the one that has their head in the sand. Deny it all you want, but you say you are a man of statistics. You well know the high percentages of black males that are or have been incarcerated. And since you choose to accuse black women of being infected by white men, why dont you run a check on some statistic on the number of white men who have reported they were raped by black men while behind bars. Yep, they rape the gay men too. Who do you think gets the full affect of that when these men are released back into society? Their wives or girlfriends. I could go on and on. Telling what I know, not think. Women who have been in what they thought were monogamous relationships, given diseases by cheating men who frequent prostitutes, strippers, other men, and countless other women. Old married men who discovered the blue pill and cheated with young women and brought their diseases home to their wives. How dare you come here depicting the black woman as something so nasty and so dirty, and the poor , poor innocent black man with no other choice but to join all other men and run to other women. HOW DARE YOU!!!

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  32.   sam says:
    Posted: 22 Jul 10

    I see that Eric still goes on his crusade here. And the message is getting louder and clearer: the black women are filthy! They have more STD's than anybody anywhere! They have it all: genital herpes! aids! clamydia! gonorrhea! syphilis! The only thing I still don't get is this: what is your motive here? Put some fear of God's punishment on people? Make them stop dating black women? Do you try to convince white men not to have sex with black women? Or do you try to stop black women from having sex with anybody at all? You see, Eric. People will have sex, regardless. You can post these scientific facts all you like, but people will have sex. That is the problem with guys like you. Like the Pope. You guys think that if you make people too scared to have sex, these deseases will dissappear. No they don't. I know it is very unfortunate, but staying virgin does not make these deseases go away. What has happened in countries where they have a huge HIV epidemic (like South Africa), virgins have become targets for men. Just because they are thinkin like you are: black women are spreading the virus! Now, because they can't tell from a grown up woman weather she is a virgin or not, they go out and rape children. Just to make sure that they can f*** STD free somebody. This is also a scientific fact. Is this something you wish to see happening in black community in USA? Men raping children so they that they can avoid STD's? If not, then what is your goal? What do you want people to do, other than be too scared to f***? I just try to figure out your idea. I get these scientific facts of yours. Yes, it is a bad situation. But what is your solution? Do you even have a solution? I doubt. The only things you have said are that black women have more STD's than anybody, that black women f*** around like horny rabbits, that black women are the MAIN reason (not the only)for the aids epidemic, that white men should stop seeing them, that everybody should stop having sex with black women, that everybody should have sex with white women, asian women or latin women, but not with black women. Am I getting this right? Is this the Message that you try to get out? "Do not have sex with black women". Why not have a new message: Everybody, get tested now! Get tested for all STD's! Right now! Wouldn't that be more productive? By the way, you never answered my question: have you been tested? If you haven't, you're part of the problem you are preaching about. So tell us all: have you been tested? Are you 100% clean? I have been tested many times during the time I've been sexually active. I have no problem with that. I practice safe sex. But I have sex. I sleep with nice women. Black or white. Or pink or blue, or green or yellow, or rainbow color. If I'm not sure about my sex partner or if it was a one night stand, I go get tested even I used a condom. Just to be safe. It is that simple. Could that be a solution? Get everybody tested? Maybe if people would know that they have STD's they would take care of themselves and their partners? Oh, I forgot what you have said all along: Black women keep on spreading the deseases even if they have a higher education, even if they are aware of HIV. Because they are black women, right? What a croak of s***.

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  33. Posted: 21 Jul 10

    wow.....such similiar writing styles I notice here....LMAO....."they" know who "THEY" are.....don't fall for this "child's play", love crazy. Just let Eric/Walter have their time here.....hey we all have "strange" hobbies. Peace and Blessings tatted2death

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  34.   lovecrazy says:
    Posted: 21 Jul 10

    Eric and Walter I am simply astonished in the way you guys speak.. I believe it goes deeper you speak as if only black women are capable of having diseases dnt catergorize all black women in that... some if not the majority are descent I my self refuse to have sex til marriage thus meaning I do not have or ever will have an Std( I'll marry a virgin)...and I know I'm not the only one its wrong to say "black women are off limits" as though we are filthy and disgusting please don't be so ugly...imagine if I had done that "all white men...this" that's wrong I want let the actions of certain individuals influence my opinion of an entire race... in the utmost respect these blog were for people who supported the subject not for people who would bring things against it so please go else where with your "facts"(not all of us are in these statisics) and negativity. ..no smiley face

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  35.   paula99 says:
    Posted: 18 Jul 10

    another thing most majority of people black and white have the herpes virus. some do not know they have it. and men with hpv and chlamydia do not even know they are carriers because they are no symptoms but it can be detected in women. they have std dating sites but even hell they are scared to date. but i used to work for the health dept. so i got the stats bro..!!and i get plenty of whitemen still jocking me. so that is not always true. about we are on the low radar. it is more whitemen dating us. but at the same time i tell sisters they are no different from black men just another race. men are men. all of you want to get fucked and somemore. but it is up to the woman how she presents herself to the male. that get her what she wants. hate the player not the game.

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  36.   paula99 says:
    Posted: 18 Jul 10

    eric some of the things you say are true. with the hiv/aids . but it is a lot of sisters out here that are not carrying any std's.. okay see no one is being in denial about this thing. sister are careful. some more than others but i am but whites do still sterotype. yes . but the thing is the boob tube we call tv. cable. all that nonsense. has created. isolation with our minds sending what we want to hear not what we need to.

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  37. Posted: 17 Jul 10

    eric, wow you still cant grasp the concept. if over 70% of new cases in men is from homosexual sex it means 2 dudes. approximately 40% of those are white and 40%are black. i dont care if you say they are bi or if you say they are dl or even gay, bottom line (no pun intended) they are the #1 reason for spreading the disease. if 2 dudes are butt punchin each other without their boots on does it matter which category you wanna put them in because hetero sexual sex ( with women)is not the #1 cause for spreading the disease, thats why over 70% of all new cases are men. the stats you provided in yesterdays post clearly shoe that. who is in denial buddy, at first you bothered me because i thought you were just an ignorant prick now i clearly see the educationa system let you down, you dont even understand your own writing. how pathetic is that notice you are the only person i am responding to directly. all the education in the world means absolutely nothing if you dont know how to use it. sincerely, looking

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  38.   PetiteChick says:
    Posted: 17 Jul 10

    @Tatted: "...Daffy needs to rope in his minions. umm and yeah while he's at it, tell Malarki5 to leave me alone!

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  39. Posted: 17 Jul 10

    ok Ich....you might not believe in the "hatred"....but ANYONE can recognize "OVERKILL".....PFFT. This is the equivalent of "preaching to the choir".....NONE of the ladies here are disputing or denying anything he is really saying and YET he goes ON AND ON AND OOOOOOOOOON.....GEEESH. Daffy needs to rope in his "minions". PEACE and BLESSINGS to ALL tatted2death

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  40. Posted: 17 Jul 10

    eeerrriiiccc, again i can see that comprehension thing is a problem for you isnt it. if over 60% of new infections is from homosexual sex that means its 2 men. and if over 70% of new infections for males is homosexual sex how are women the primary facilitators??? as well almost 3/4 of all new infections are males.over 80% of new infections in women are from heterosexual sex meaning they are getting it from men not the other way around statistically speaking. now because most black women only date black men where are they getting it...hmmm i wonder??? now if you are indulging in anal sex which is therefore the riskiest form of sex and are unprotected i dont care who you are it is your fault and no one elses. i am sorry to tell you but the statistics you just posted do not i repeat do not suppot your statements. again it obviously is a comprehension problem you may wanna head back to school.

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  41.   PetiteChick says:
    Posted: 16 Jul 10

    @ Eric HIV/AIDS should be a problem that plagues society for all of us. It knows no color, no economic status, nor does it care how one acquires it. I feel your presentation on the matter has been laced with blame it on the Black woman. Now if maybe, just maybe had your approach been a little different w/o the Black man hatred spin, folks could have listened. I have also reaffirmed what was taught to me by my parents that you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink when you get him there. Having said that, bring the message honestly and let those that can benefit from it do so. Those that choose not to - will not if they are not so inclined.

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  42.   PetiteChick says:
    Posted: 16 Jul 10

    PRIOR POST, NOT FOR ERIC, BUT FOR "Lookingfor" (sorry Eric - please disregard but I will come back with thoughts on your approach at bringing the message) Comment by PetiteChick on 16 July 2010: @ Eric PetiteChick did not crunch any numbers. Had you read every post I posted you would see that it came from the CDC fact sheet as revised in 2009. Further, Lookingfor, I found websites NOT FIGURES. Dont you come throw no shade now. The post with the links did not show up (URLS) I will WRITE THEM OUT SO THIS CAN POST. Dig it? 1. dubya dubya dubya Avert. organization (you know how to fix this to paste it in to your browser. 2. dubya dubya dubya CDC. gov search for Fact Sheet: HIV/AIDS Among African Americans. The site lets you search. 3. FINALLY, dubya dubya dubya BlackAids . organization Every bit of info I found on google comes from there. You didnt read. I told you that once before!

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  43.   PetiteChick says:
    Posted: 16 Jul 10

    @ Eric "PetiteChick did not crunch any numbers. Had you read every post I posted you would see that it came from the CDC "fact sheet" as revised in 2009. Further, "Lookingfor", I found websites NOT FIGURES. Don't you come throw no shade now. The post with the links did not show up (URLS) I will WRITE THEM OUT SO THIS CAN POST. Dig it? 1. dubya dubya dubya Avert. organization (you know how to fix this to paste it in to your browser. 2. dubya dubya dubya CDC. gov search for Fact Sheet: "HIV/AIDS" Among African Americans. The site lets you search. 3. FINALLY, dubya dubya dubya BlackAids . organization Every bit of info I found on google comes from there. You didn't read. I told you that once before!

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  44.   Ichibod says:
    Posted: 16 Jul 10

    edit: "with you on this"

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  45.   Ichibod says:
    Posted: 16 Jul 10

    Eric, I'm with on this, however I totally understand why these women have expressed their grievances.

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  46.   Ichibod says:
    Posted: 16 Jul 10

    Tatts, I understand where you're coming. I stated in my post that it noticed his comments seemed suspect appearing in this thread as well as another about black women and their choices. Possibly because "Can Sex With A Stranger Be Intimate and Do Women Prefer Polyandry To Monogamy don't have a significant black female presence. Talking about this subject to a predominately white male and female audience would be like talking to a wall or "selling out" in my opinion. As you know, I don't like people using their race's opposite gender to justify interracial dating, but I haven't heard the "black men have AIDS" excuse before on this site. Arguing outside personal beef in a forum of folks unaware of what or why they're mentioning something IS a big pet peeve of mine. So please, Tatts, don't take offense to my comment regarding this issue. I'm the kind of person who listens to what a person has to say regardless of how they said it, then take how they said it as a means of how to deal with them going foward. I heard what Eric said and struck me as personal given some recent events in my heart and mind. Especially all of the "hatred" speak. That irks me everytime I hear it. But it is what it is. He says his intent was not to offend, maybe he should have found a better way to present hst ideas and fact or respond to his detractors.

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  47. Posted: 16 Jul 10

    @SAM & ERIC MY EARLIER POST POINTS OUT THE MAJORITYOF NEW CASES IN MEN (72%) ARE GETTING THE DISEASE FROM A-- PUNCHING OTHER MEN. 80% OF NEW FEMALE CASES ARE FROM MEN. so obviously its the men leaving the deposit that are srpreading it. dirty needles and drug use is still a contributing factor but at nowhere near the same levels. and i dont know where "petite chick" got her numbers but they are not significantly different than the ones i found. bottom line anal sex is the most high risk for all people male or female. @ tatted, petite and sam maybe this hooligan gets it now and he will get back on topic "are there choices for black women?" and its nice reading all your comments thx

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  48.   godiva61 says:
    Posted: 16 Jul 10

    Good Morning, First off I would like to take this time out to thank Ms.Tatt for articulating so well her insight pertaining to Eric's motives, thank you dear Tatt, you and I are on the exact page with this one! Your response was worded perfectly! You confirmed my suspicions about this one! Observation pertaining to his genuine motives, of all the topics on this blog, why did he choose to speak on this under the title "black women have no option"? I wonder why not a more appropiate title such as "can sex with a stranger be intimate"(Feb 09), or, "do women prefer polyandry to monogamy"(Dec 08). Another observation, his initial comment about the subject matter was on June 22( I don't copy and paste so if anyone wants to read it, scroll up the page). He said what he wanted to say and he also suggested to reference the CDC, I wonder why he couldn't/didn't just leave it at that? Now since no one replied back to him about their findings from the CDC or anything else that he had to say, then maybe, just maybe, the conversation could have ceased! Was this not a possibility? I'm wondering why no one bother to keep going with the conversation???? Maybe some of us saw right through his BS, and true motives from the very beginning!!! Tatt did make a comment on the 27th of June, however, she did NOT mention his name, her comment, as I read it was about, the tone of his comments. This is when the second red flag went up for me when he responded back to someone who NEVER mentioned his name!! So he then responds to Tatt with that condescending tone, and his feeble attempt to minimize her thoughts, by referring to her as a "poster child" of some sort. Maybe it's me, but had his TRUE intentions were to enlighten, or inform, he should have been ABLE, CAPABLE, and WILLING to respond WITHOUT the INSULTS to Tatt and everyone else that he has insulted here! And of course, the insults has yet to cease, and why, because this is his SOLE PURPOSE FOR BEING HERE! I was born at night, but it wasn't last night! I'm also wondering why is it, how is it, and what does it say about your character and your motives when a person can come into an environment, such as this site, and immediately attack someones character and you know nothing about them? Tatt has always been CONSISTENT in being fair, and open minded and if his so called true motives, were so obvious, then he would have, should have, made a conscious effort NOT to judge her unjustly, and then further insult her with his MEAN SPIRTIED COMMENTS! The wise teacher with honorable intentions do not intentionally REPEL other's! This has NOT been the case! So Ich, for me, this was NOT about his message or facts, this was NOT about the messenger, who happens to be a black man, this was about the how, and the manner in which the messenger, brought his message, and most of all, it is about his true motives!! If the message was coming from love and concern, we would have seen it! True love in any form is evident! People can, and do try to mask who they really are, but no person is that clever, the REAL you can NEVER BE HIDDEN!! FYI, I have been in the medical field since 1982, with the exception of the years in the Military. I'm sure other's here may have a medical backround as well, so the assumption that we are clueless about HIV/AIDS was a further insult!!! Motives? Evil exists, and thrives when good people sit back and do nothing! Last, we as a people(decent, and caring) should be SICK and TIRED of the people that are SICK and TIRED!! love godiva

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  49.   sam says:
    Posted: 16 Jul 10

    Well well, Eric. Where did you ever said that black women are the reason for this HIV epidemic? Right here: "To: Sam Its just amazing that individuals just like you seem to have this inability to read! Tell, me where did I ever say that black women are the reason for the national epidemic in the African American community? What I did say, and will stand beside that fact is that black women are the primary facilitators for the continuing spread of this deadly virus, because of their continuing attitudes of denial towards their failure to embrace safe sex practices as do other non-black women! yes, and thats a fact! And I also stand by that as well! So, get your facts straight before you come here shooting out at the mouth fueled by only emotions, and not facts as they really are!" There you go: "black women are the primary facilitators for the continuig spread of this deadly virus." So you blame them. It is their fault. It is because of them. Now, I don't know your personal history nor your backround, so I really don't understand why you hate black women so much. Maybe your girlfriend slept with your best buddy, maybe you got the virus, maybe nobody has been interested in you, I really don't know. Maybe it has something to do with your mother, like Freud would suspect. What I do know from your words is this: you blame black women. You see them as the guilty party here. Period. It is their fault. You say it again and again and again. They refuse to practise safe sex even when they are university educated! So, black women demand unsafe sex! They insist it! They force men to have unsafe sex and so the poor helpless men get it? What are you? Three years old? Whip your rubber out buddy before you dive in. That is how the adults do it. If your woman demands unsafe sex, you can say no. Is it somehow not possible for say no? Is it somehow not possible to have safe sex with a black woman? Because that is what you suggest when you blame the black women for spreading the virus. What you DO NOT say is this: who they are having this AIDS infested dirty sex with? Who are these helpless, poor victims that the powerful demonic black women are raping with their HIV infected overbearing bodies with? Yeah. I guess black women are sooooo powerful that you can't just help it. If a black woman, in her evil state, demands unsafe sex, a man has no other choice but to take it. Pity those poor men who fall into the hellish trap of the black women!! Right? What a crap that is. "So, get your facts straight before you come here shooting out at the mouth fueled by only emotions, and not facts as they really are!" Eric, you should know by now that we, the White Devils, have no emotions. We are capable to asses any situation with icy cold calculations. We can and do make our mind by simply thinking. We don't let our emotions get in to our way, you know. Like Mickey Rourke says in the movie The Year of the Dragon: "My hearts been broken thousand times, but guess what? I don't give shit!" So where as your thoughts are fueled by fear, scare mongering, religious zelotism and some very elementary misogynistic ideas, I look at the whole situation very calm and collected way. I see it as it is. Ok, HIV is here. It is a fact. How can I deal with it? How we all should deal with it? And, like your own president said: yes we can. We can deal with it. But you can't. Instead of looking for any answers or solutions, you go for that Good Ole Witch Hunt mode. It is the women and particulary black women! Let's get them before they get us! Put up the stakes! Light the fire! It is those evil, ungodly black women who, despite their high education, continue to spread the virus! It is their fault! They do it on purpose. They don't care even if they know, so they must do it on purpose. And what that purpose could be? Some satanic evil unchristian reason I bet. This is what you are saying, suggesting. Maybe your preacher hates women, maybe you are into hating women, I don't know. But I do know this: when you look for the guilty ones, you are not looking for solutions. You are looking for somebody to punish. And this is the real question: Why you want to punish black women? What they have done to you? PS. Did you get tested already? Be part of solution, Eric. It helps to ease your pain, what ever that is.

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  50. Posted: 16 Jul 10

    oh yes.....forgot to say ..... the "honorable mention" of "black men" in the issue at hand DOES LITTLE IF ANYTHING TO MASK THE THROWING OF THE SALT. If he just kept that madness down he might have an excellent platform to discuss something that IS important TO ALL. But making it (at it's core) about "black women" (all that's missing is the "nappy headed"....PFFT) polarizes it to the point of MADNESS. Any sort of broad-minded discussion is not possible with someone of this mentality....PERIOD.

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